(August 24, 2016) … Andre Proulx and are are speaking with JL Groux for our Pocast series, Two Guys Talking Wine, and in particular for our legacy series within the podcast; I pulled out one of the oldest bottles from JL’s former employer, Hillebrand, and a wine from the 2002 vintage, a nice hot vintage. The nose is earthy, leathery, and oaky – fruit is non-existent aroma-wise and palate-wise it isn’t much different: spicy and oaky notes with little to no fruit, cedar has definitely taken hold. The nice part is that fruit begins to emerge after about 30-45 mins, it’s dried but definitely red with notes of cassis on the finish. Within an hour it smooths out and the spice disappears replaced by hints of weak coffee.